Alaya's Ghost said:
Ichigo wasn't a f*cking demigod when he first travelled via Dangai.
If time reversion only happens due to using the FGT as you've been arguing despite the fact that nothing connects the two, that's irrelevant. What is correlates to how we see it delayed on a thoroughly drianed Isshin, know it's a generalized mechanic, and even as a Demigod the effect wasn't negated at all, he couldn't overcome it at all with his power even at the time.
Alaya's Ghost said:
If you genuinely believe that Barragon can one shot Transcedent tier characters then have fun. I want no part of that.
Depends if the gap is wide enough to hax null or not or if they can regen. GIN can for example as is. Just a matter of avoiding his sh*t directly, or overpowering it with an attack of their own for a GG win there.
Problem for Ichigo is he's never had the capacity for Hax null, and indeed we have a case example of him in True Bankai being unable to negate Tsukishima's power from working on him against his will, not even getting into the semi more forgivable Askin. Aizen sure arguably could do it, provided the Soifon scene wasn't KS which isn't clear and has arguments for and against, Ichigo doesn't have that tool in his belt at any point by comparison.
Further the Dangai thing also proves this. Hax Null erases the effect, it doesn't delay it till its weakened. If the Soifon thing was legit and later on Aizen died from the effect triggering once he got weak enough, ala hilariously that seal Urahara had on his body that somehow survived Mugetsu, that's delaying not negating.
Dangai we already know is delayed from Isshin not being deaged Instantly is the problem as is, on top of him being drained to sh*t so we can't even argue that factor solidly.
So in short there's no case for solid time resistence from a passive effect that wasn't even resited, it worked exactly as extrapolated between both him and a guy who was drained to sh*t so hard he came in unconcious and still didn't have his beard degrow.
Alaya's Ghost said:
I'll ask you the same question I asked theta_prism in that thread, what percentage of the total power of the swing is transmitted to the hill via the parry. Because neither Ichigo nor Aizen hit the hills.
Significantly more than would be required to, as was being argued in that original thread and was LITERALLY my core point when coming in to that line of discussion, inflate Aizen to Country level physical strength wise. Especially comparing him to in base no less rather than any of his evolved forms. Especially especially given merely that was an unimaginable increase of his base power and he was wrong, none of it was him.
Again, not hard to parse from what was literally presented directly. To get that high anything above infinitesimally close to 0% is required to go from Large hill to country level in physical power even presuming he was correct and was actually the one who did it.
You want to argue that wasn't even close to 1% of Aizen's purely physical might in Base compared to his massively increased in strength Mullet form, that's your fanfiction wank to put it mildly with all the factors directly stated to us that disprove that notion completely.
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Alaya's Ghost said:
Edit: I just checked, and Isshin and Rukia talk about two different things completely.
Isshin talks about the time shenanigans due to being chased by the Cleaner. Rukia talks about the reversal of the time Ichigo spent in Dangai due to Dangai's normal time shenanigans. Cleaner was already dead in the second scenario.
Anyways, Isshin can't overwrite Rukia since he says that stuff in chapter 407 and Rukia's comment is from chapter 423. How do you overwrite information that is going to be provided in the future?
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Try actually understanding what's being said. These are both the same thing.
The cleaner stabilizes time distortions in the dangai, but as a result distorts them wildly when it shows up. Apparently tech can mitigate this by reducing the distortion of time (Few days compared to 100 years), but they die due to their body trying to adjust to the time dependency, as noted.
Same thing when the Dangai is stabilized normally to the 2000X slower increase apparently. Otherwise it makes zero sense why you would randomly deage after coming back out. It's a quirk of how time distortions work in Bleach apparently, least where the dangai's concerned. Both results are the same thing, adjusting to the actual outside timeline to negate the temporal discrepancy.
Something not even Ichigo's demigod status as Mugetsu could negate at all, still caught up to him once the delay Isshin had too apparently but didn't take effect yet either.
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